Trail EAffect
Trail EAffect is a show that dives into the stories behind trails, the communities that embrace trails, and the people who rely on trails as a way of life by interviewing the personalities involved with the world of Trails and Mountain Biking.
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Tuesday Aug 12, 2025
Tuesday Aug 12, 2025
For Episode 197 we have Adam Yeoman, the Executive Director for the Copper Harbor Trails Club. During this conversation we talk all things Copper Harbor 2025, which includes some past events, future events, new trails, and there is also some intel on what participants of the 2025 Copper Harbor Trails Fest might have in store in terms of both XC and Enduro Course. Adam covers a lot during our conversation, and Copper Harbor as a trail organization has a ton going on, so even if you are not from the Upper Midwest there are some pieces of information that you may find interesting or helpful for your trail community.
Topics Include:
Brief bit of Copper Harbor and Keweenaw Penisula History
The transition from club president to Executive Director
Staff at Copper Harbor Trails Club
Ride the Keweenaw Event
Copper Harbor Trails Fest
Orbion – Title Sponsor of Trails Fest
Women’s & Men’s Ride Clinics
New Trails coming online
Keweenaw Point Trail continues to be built
New Start Hub at the top of East Bluff
Winter Trails for Copper Harbor Trails Club
Nordic Skiing
Hints about 2025 Trails Fest Course for both the XC and Enduro
Other events that have been held in Copper Harbor in 2025
Rough Stuff Rally
906 Adventure Crusher
12 hours of All You Can East Bluffet – Endurance Enduro
What Adam looks for in a Trail Community
Closing Comments
Trail EAffect Show Links:
Copper Harbor Trails Club: https://www.copperharbortrails.org/
East Bluff Bike Park: https://eastbluffbikepark.com/
Orbion – Title Sponsor for Copper Harbor Trails Fest: https://orbionspace.com/
Rough Stuff Rally: https://bikejerks.com/pages/rough-stuff-rally
906 Adventure Crusher: https://906adventureteam.com/mountain-bike-events/the-crusher/
Episode Sponsor - Coulee Creative: www.dudejustsendit.com https://www.couleecreative.com/
Trail EAffect Podcast Website: www.traileaffectpodcast.com
KETL Mtn Apparel Affiliate Link: https://ketlmtn.com/josh
Trail One Components: https://trailone.bike/josh
Smith’s Bike Shop – 130 Years of Excellence: www.smithsbikes.com
Contact Josh at evolutiontrails@gmail.com
This Podcast has been edited and produced by Evolution Trail Services
Tuesday Jul 22, 2025
Tuesday Jul 22, 2025
For Episode 196 we have J.T. Horn, J.T, is the Trail Director for the Trust for Public Land. J.T. was also one of two guests on episode 192 where we discussed the Economic Impact that Mountain Biking can have on communities. For this episode we are discussing various ways to bridge the gap between Land Conservation organizations and the Trail Community. This topic can be a rather important topic because land access for trails is often one of the most challenging hurdles for trail development. As J.T. describes during this conversation, partnering with a Land Conservation Organization that understands the value of trails and outdoor recreation can be a critical step in the trail development process. I always really enjoy perspective that J.T. brings during our conversations and I hope you do as well!
Topics Include:
The J.T. Horn backstory
What the Trust for Public Land is, and how the TPL came to be
How to engage with the Trust for Public Land for a Land Acquisition
The risk and financial lens
Focus mainly on high impact larger projects
Tualatin Mountain Forest – Portland OR.
Due diligence in real estate:
Four Key Components
Value of the Land
Land Survey (Size / Neighbors / Etc.)
Title Search / existing rights on the property
Environmental Status
Bridging the gap between Conservation Organizations and the Trail Community
The partnership between the Trust for Public Land and IMBA
An example project between the TPL and IMBA
Mono Pond State Park in CT
The shift in mindset from conserving and preserving land to moving to creating more recreational land on these properties
Winter and Summer economics that revolve around outdoor recreation
Bethel, MA – Sunday River / Bethel Community Forest
Carrabassett Valley, MA and Crocker Mountain Unit
Catamount Outdoor Family Center
Examples of avenues for funding opportunities
Potential Partnership between forest product companies and Trail Organizations
Life Wisdom by J.T. Horn
Land Acquisition Strategy using good parcel data
What J.T. looks for in a Trail Community
Closing Comments
Trail EAffect Show Links:
The Trust for Public Land: https://www.tpl.org/
The Tualatin Mountain Forest: https://www.tpl.org/our-work/tualatin-mountain-forest
Mono Pond State Park: https://www.tpl.org/our-work/bigger-better-mono-pond-state-park
Catamount Outdoor Family Center: https://catamountoutdoor.org/
Episode Sponsor - Coulee Creative: www.dudejustsendit.com https://www.couleecreative.com/
Trail EAffect Podcast Website: www.traileaffectpodcast.com
KETL Mtn Apparel Affiliate Link: https://ketlmtn.com/josh
Trail One Components: https://trailone.bike/josh
Smith’s Bike Shop – 130 Years of Excellence: www.smithsbikes.com
Contact Josh at evolutiontrails@gmail.com
This Podcast has been edited and produced by Evolution Trail Services
Tuesday Jul 01, 2025
Tuesday Jul 01, 2025
For Episode 195 we have Chris Stindt as our guest. Chris is heavily involved hosting bicycle related events, all sorts of bicycle related events. During this conversation we uncover the value that events bring to communities, and in many ways these events help to build stronger communities.
Topics Include:
The Chris Stindt backstory
Chris’s role at Smith’s Bike Shop
Events as a vehicle for raising money to fund trails
An overview of multiple events before going into a deep dive on them
A Brief History of WORS Racing in La Crosse
The La Crosse Omnium Road Race – What this event does for the region
Side conversation about Kwik Trip
Deeper into what to expect at ORA Trails Fest and the UCI racing aspect of 2025’s event
Enduro Racing at ORA Trails Fest
USA Cycling Gravel Nationals – La Crescent, MN – Across the river from La Crosse, WI
Smith’s Bike Shop and the 130-Year Anniversary – 1895 to Present – Yet another community event
Other events that Smith’s Bike Shop Supports – Valet Bike Parking at the Moon Tunes Summer Concert Series with the Beer By Bike Brigade.
What Chris looks for in Trail Communities
Closing Comments
Trail EAffect Show Links:
La Crosse Omnium: https://www.lacrosseomnium.com/
ORA Trails Fest: https://www.oratrailsfest.com/
Smith’s Bike Shop – 130 Years of Excellence: www.smithsbikes.com
USA Cycling Gravel National Championships: https://gravelnats.usacycling.org/
I Helped Design the Gravel Nationals Course Coming to Minnesota. Then We Pre-Rode It (And It’s Going to Hurt) – Words: Chris Stindt https://www.thenxrth.com/post/i-helped-design-the-gravel-nationals-course-coming-to-minnesota-then-we-pre-rode-it-and-it-s-goin
Episode Sponsor - Coulee Creative: www.dudejustsendit.com https://www.couleecreative.com/
Trail EAffect Podcast Website: www.traileaffectpodcast.com
KETL Mtn Apparel Affiliate Link: https://ketlmtn.com/josh
Trail One Components: https://trailone.bike/josh
Smith’s Bike Shop – 130 Years of Excellence: www.smithsbikes.com
Contact Josh at evolutiontrails@gmail.com
This Podcast has been edited and produced by Evolution Trail Services
Monday Jun 23, 2025
Monday Jun 23, 2025
For Episode 194 Martha Becton takes over again, this time at the 2025 International Trail Summit, which was held this past April in Madison, WI. Similar to when Martha took over last year at the PTBA Conference, Martha is back, and this time she’s got 6 other guests who dive back into the topic of Women in Trail Building.
Topics Include:
Intro by Martha Becton – Owner of Becton Trails
Desi Jarrell – Director of Outdoor Recreation Perry County Fiscal Court
Kathie Brennan – Vice President Ozark Trail Association
Valerie Niles – Open Space Technician Midpeninsula Regional Open Space District
Heidi Tillmanns – Director Trail & Infrastructure Trans Canada Trail
Stacey Dakin – Chief Program Officer Trans Canada Trail
Kathie Brennan – Working with AmeriCorps staff
Martha – Volunteering as a retirement job, and staying active when older in life
Kathie Brennan – What is now my purpose?
Erica Hirsch – Trails Program Manager Cleveland Metroparks
Working for multiple winters in Patagonia Argentina
Martha – What hooked you into trails – and how can you get into this career of trails
Trails as a second career (later in life)
Transferable Skills into trails – (Hint, everything is transferable)
Desi and Kathie – NICA and getting kids and families on bikes
Closing Comments
Trail EAffect Show Links:
International Trails Summit: https://www.trails-summit.org/
Episode Sponsor - Coulee Creative: www.dudejustsendit.com https://www.couleecreative.com/
Trail EAffect Podcast Website: www.traileaffectpodcast.com
KETL Mtn Apparel Affiliate Link: https://ketlmtn.com/josh
Trail One Components: https://trailone.bike/josh
Smith’s Bike Shop – 130 Years of Excellence: www.smithsbikes.com
Contact Josh at evolutiontrails@gmail.com
This Podcast has been edited and produced by Evolution Trail Services
Tuesday Jun 17, 2025
Tuesday Jun 17, 2025
For Episode 193 we have Uriah Nazario and Brock Wagner who are two of the many personalities behind Beyond the Ashes – An Adaptive Trail Story. Uriah and Brock break down the backstory behind this film, who they brought into the film, along with how Universal Trail Design can be incorporated into trail systems without most people knowing, yet providing access to Adaptive Mountain Bikers. This film will be going live on June 19th at the Bentonville Film Festival. Some of the personalities in this film are previous guests on the Trail EAffect podcast as well such as Jeremy P McGhee (Episodes 65 & 66), and Annijke Wade (Episode 85).
Topics Include:
The backstory on how Beyond the Ashes came to be
Bring Brock Wagner along for filming movie, and how this evolved from a documentary with Jeremy P McGhee to a much larger and more inclusive project
Bringing Brian Carlson into the film – and the vital role Brian played
Having other riders evaluate trails to get feedback from different perspectives
Breaking down the differences between the various aMTB’s from Brock’s perspective
Learning how to build jumps for Adaptive Riders – and sending Jeremy into an Airbag off of and ATV ramp.
Jeremy P McGhee absolutely sending it
How Adaptive riders don’t want or need trails “dumbed down”
What Brock took away from making this film
How the film is broken up into segments
The release at the Bentonville Film Festival
The possibility of this film going to other film festivals
Closing Comments
Trail EAffect Show Links:
Beyond the Ashes: https://www.beyondtheashesfilm.com/
Bentonville Film Festival: https://bentonvillefilm.org/
Episode Sponsor - Coulee Creative: www.dudejustsendit.com https://www.couleecreative.com/
Trail EAffect Podcast Website: www.traileaffectpodcast.com
KETL Mtn Apparel Affiliate Link: https://ketlmtn.com/josh
Trail One Components: https://trailone.bike/josh
Smith’s Bike Shop – 130 Years of Excellence: www.smithsbikes.com
Contact Josh at evolutiontrails@gmail.com
This Podcast has been edited and produced by Evolution Trail Services
Tuesday May 20, 2025
Tuesday May 20, 2025
For Episode 192 we have Jennifer Clinton and J.T. Horn both of the Trust for Public Land. Earlier this year the Trust for Public Land Partnered with IMBA to author a report on the Economic Impact of Mountain Biking. They also presented this report at the International Trail Summit that was held this past April in Madison, WI. We dug into the report itself along with some takeaways from the International Trail Summit during this conversation.
Topics Include:
About the Trust for Public Land
Jennifer Clinton’s Backstory and background in economics
Lab for Land and People
The partnerships that were created to make this report happen
IMBA and TPL
Creating the Economic Impact of Mountain Biking Report
Selecting data that was published in the past 10 years
Mountain Bike Specific Data (not all-inclusive cycling data)
Key Findings in the report
Planning Considerations – Outside of trails for the community to be successful
Chattanooga, TN – Example Community
Gorham, NH – Example Community
Events and what the event can bring to the community both during and outside of the event.
Highlights and Findings that may have been surprising to Jennifer and JT
Attending the International Trail Summit
Concurrent Session about the report (Co Presenting w/ IMBA)
Feedback during / from the presentation
Best Practices for using the report
Another takeaway from the International Trail Summit – Redhead Bike Park, Chisholm, MN
Closing Comments
Trail EAffect Show Links:
Trust for Public Land: https://www.tpl.org/
Economic Impact of Mountain Biking Report: https://www.tpl.org/resource/econmountainbiking
Episode Sponsor - Coulee Creative: www.dudejustsendit.com https://www.couleecreative.com/
Trail EAffect Podcast Website: www.traileaffectpodcast.com
KETL Mtn Apparel Affiliate Link: https://ketlmtn.com/josh
Trail One Components: https://trailone.bike/josh
Smith’s Bike Shop – 130 Years of Excellence: www.smithsbikes.com
Contact Josh at evolutiontrails@gmail.com
This Podcast has been edited and produced by Evolution Trail Services
Tuesday Apr 22, 2025
Tuesday Apr 22, 2025
For Episode 191 we have Lars Romig of Sedona, AZ. Lars has been a long-time member of the Verde Valley Cyclists Coalition, along with being a Trail Builder and Mountain Bike Trail Access Advocate. Most Recently Lars led the charge on building the Hardline Trail. This conversation is one that I’ve wanted to have with a Sedona Local for a handful of years now as there is a ton of riding content that comes out of Sedona, but not a lot of content around how the Trails and Trail Access for mountain biking came to be in Sedona.
Topics Include:
How Lars got into Mountain Biking
What Lars does professionally for a career
How Sedona Trails came to be for Mountain Biking
The various trail zones in Sedona, and the order of when those riding zones opened up for mountain biking
Pigtail Trail (within the Hogs network)
Started out as an IMBA Trail Day
Constant improvements to Pigtail
Western Movies in Sedona / Broken Arrow Area
Building a relationship with the U.S. Forest Service
The growth of membership and engagement with the Verde Valley Cyclists Coalition
Singletrack Bypass Reroute
The Hardline Trail backstory
The timeframe of building the Hardline Trail
The Public Comment Period of the NEPA Process
Recommended Direction Trails
User Experience
The user reception of the Hardline trail since it opened up
Specialized and Soil Searching
The Letter: H
Trails that don’t start with the Letter H, that are still really great
Canyon of Fools and lessons learned from that trail
Monsoon Season and Riding Etiquette regarding wet trails
Forest Service Trail Crew
Sedona Red Rock Trail Fund
Funds Non-Motorized Trail Development and Maintenance
What Lars looks for in a Trail Community
Secrets to riding the Hardline Trail
The recommended route for a great ride that includes the classics and Hardline
Closing Comments
Trail EAffect Show Links:
Verde Valley Cyclists Coalition: https://www.vvcc.us/
Specialized Soil Searching Hardline Trail: https://youtu.be/tJ06FMsIoy8?si=sBwZURjM5n-yFM3v
Sedona Red Rock Trail Fund: https://redrocktrailfund.org/
Episode Sponsor - Coulee Creative: www.dudejustsendit.com https://www.couleecreative.com/
Trail EAffect Podcast Website: www.traileaffectpodcast.com
KETL Mtn Apparel Affiliate Link: https://ketlmtn.com/josh
Trail One Components: https://trailone.bike/josh
Smith’s Bike Shop – 130 Years of Excellence: www.smithsbikes.com
Contact Josh at evolutiontrails@gmail.com
This Podcast has been edited and produced by Evolution Trail Services
Friday Apr 11, 2025
Friday Apr 11, 2025
For Episode 190 we have Chris Riley from Central Maine. Chris is the president of the Central Maine Chapter of the New England Mountain Bike Association, and a board member of the New England Mountain Bike Association. Chris and his organization have come up with some innovative ideas on how to handle both new trail construction as well as handling annual trail maintenance. Maine and the New England region has a ton of momentum with mountain biking and trails, and that is really showcased during this conversation.
Topics Include:
How Chris got into Mountain Biking
Chris’s early years in mountain biking
Including several trips to ride in the Austin Texas area
How Chris got involved with Mountain Biking and Advocacy in Maine
Volunteer Engagement and Community Engagement with CE ME NEMBA
Bringing on paid staff for trail building and maintenance
Trail Systems that fall under the CE ME organization
Buying an excavator to accelerate trail building in the region
Various ways for funding trails
Maine Trails Bond initiative
Road Tripping to the Upper Peninsula of Michigan
Marquette Trails
Houghton Trails
Copper Harbor Trails
Creating destination riding communities
Gravity Bike Parks in Maine
Partnering with a local land trust for a new trail system
Trail Systems proximity to communities for riding in the region
Hub and Spoke Trail Model
NEMBA and the 3 Year Strategic Plan
Maintenance Matters
What Chris looks for in a Trail Community
Closing Comments
Trail EAffect Show Links:
Central Maine NEMBA: https://cemenemba.org/
New England Mountain Bike Association: https://www.nemba.org/
Episode Sponsor - Coulee Creative: www.dudejustsendit.com https://www.couleecreative.com/
Trail EAffect Podcast Website: www.traileaffectpodcast.com
KETL Mtn Apparel Affiliate Link: https://ketlmtn.com/josh
Trail One Components: https://trailone.bike/josh
Smith’s Bike Shop – 130 Years of Excellence: www.smithsbikes.com
Contact Josh at evolutiontrails@gmail.com
This Podcast has been edited and produced by Evolution Trail Services
Tuesday Mar 18, 2025
Tuesday Mar 18, 2025
For Episode 189 we have Chase Draper the President of Birmingham Urban Mountain Pedalers otherwise known as BUMP. BUMP is another powerhouse volunteer driven trail organization that falls under the SORBA mothership in the South East region of the United States. Chase provides some exceltent stories about what can be accomplished when you are willing to outwork everyone else, and he’s got a pretty sarcastic personality as well.
Topics Include:
How and why Chase got into Mountain Biking
How Chase got involved with BUMP
Becoming the President of BUMP
The backstory of BUMP
Gravity Project at Oak Mountain State Park
Funding through Inovate Alabama
What the new Gravity Trails will do for the Region and Oak Mountain State Park
Tannehill Ironworks trail expansion and building the largest adaptive accessible mountain bike trail system in the Southeast.
IMBA Ride Centers and how BUMP is pursuing the Silver Level Ride Center Status.
Oak Ass Endurance Race – NUE Series Championships for 2025
Bump-N-Grind Race
Challenges that Chase has come across with leading the organization and managing volunteers
What makes a great trail community in Chase’s opinion
Closing Comments
Trail EAffect Show Links:
Birmingham Urban Mountain Pedalers: https://www.bump.org/
Oak Ass Endurance Race: https://bumpngrindraces.com/oak-ass-100/
Episode Sponsor - Coulee Creative: www.dudejustsendit.com https://www.couleecreative.com/
Trail EAffect Podcast Website: www.traileaffectpodcast.com
KETL Mtn Apparel Affiliate Link: https://ketlmtn.com/josh
Trail One Components: https://trailone.bike/josh
Smith’s Bike Shop – 130 Years of Excellence: www.smithsbikes.com
Contact Josh at evolutiontrails@gmail.com
This Podcast has been edited and produced by Evolution Trail Services
Tuesday Feb 11, 2025
Tuesday Feb 11, 2025
For Episode 188 we have Jarrod Harris and Josh Cohan back on from Jarrod’s Place Bike Park. We cover a handful of topics including what Josh & Jarrod have learned since opening Jarrod’s Place Bike Park and we went deep on All things Trail Armor – The first line of defense for protecting your Flow Trails, Jump Lines and Berms. There’s a lot of great things that Jarrod and Josh have been learning through their development of Trail Armor, but the most important aspect of all of this is that they are taking a chance and pushing innovation, and as we all know innovation breeds innovation and this is definitely a radical innovation!
Topics Include:
Jarrod’s Place backstory on purchasing the land
Lessons learned running the bike park since we last talked (Episode 91)
The diversity of Trail Experiences at Jarrod’s Place
The efficiency of operating shuttle trucks
The Trail Armor Backstory
Working with a carpet manufacturer
Testing different materials
How Trail Armor is helping to reduce overall costs in maintenance and improving trail consistency.
Riding through adverse weather conditions
Where Trail Armor is used and not used
The Evolution of Trail Armor
How Trail Armor is reducing or eliminating erosion including dust erosion
Trail Armor is available in various colors
Customers using Trail Armor outside of Jarrod’s Place
Installation and Repair of Trail Armor
Cost of Trail Armor
How Trail Armor helps to inspire confidence among newer riders
Hauling Trail Armor into a job site
80’s Movies
Art Installations at Jarrod’s Place
Building a great community at and around Jarrod’s Place
Closing Comments
Trail EAffect Show Links:
Jarrod’s Place Bike Park: https://jarrodsplacebikepark.com/
For more information about Trail Armor email: info@jarrodsplacebikepark.com
Original Jarrod’s Place Episode (91): https://www.traileaffectpodcast.com/jarrods-place-bike-park-with-josh-cohan-and-jarrod-harris-91/
Episode Sponsor - Coulee Creative: www.dudejustsendit.com https://www.couleecreative.com/
Trail One Components 20% off Coupon Code: trailpod
Trail EAffect Podcast Website: www.traileaffectpodcast.com
KETL Mtn Apparel Affiliate Link: https://ketlmtn.com/josh
Trail One Components: https://trailone.bike/?ref=XavfBrRJfk4VOh
Smith’s Bike Shop – 130 Years of Excellence: www.smithsbikes.com
Contact Josh at evolutiontrails@gmail.com
This Podcast has been edited and produced by Evolution Trail Services
